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	<title>Comments on: Loss of Free Inquiry on Campus Betrays Liberal Legacy (UPDATED)</title>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://mvdg.wordpress.com/2007/10/24/loss-of-free-inquiry-on-campus-betrays-liberal-legacy/#comment-40079</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 15:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woops... left out the blockquote in that last comment...
Should be&#62;&#62;&#62;&#62;&#62;&#62;

&lt;blockquote&gt;Big government isn’t just about raw expenditures - though that is important - it is also about interference in the lives of citizens from unaccountable federal bureaucrats.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Except that those raw expenditures are always interference in the lives of citizens. It’s money taken from our pockets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woops&#8230; left out the blockquote in that last comment&#8230;<br />
Should be&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;</p>
<blockquote><p>Big government isn’t just about raw expenditures - though that is important - it is also about interference in the lives of citizens from unaccountable federal bureaucrats.</p></blockquote>
<p>Except that those raw expenditures are always interference in the lives of citizens. It’s money taken from our pockets.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://mvdg.wordpress.com/2007/10/24/loss-of-free-inquiry-on-campus-betrays-liberal-legacy/#comment-40077</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 15:12:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Big government isn’t just about raw expenditures - though that is important - it is also about interference in the lives of citizens from unaccountable federal bureaucrats.

Except that those raw expenditures are always interference in the lives of citizens.  It's money taken from our pockets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Big government isn’t just about raw expenditures - though that is important - it is also about interference in the lives of citizens from unaccountable federal bureaucrats.</p>
<p>Except that those raw expenditures are always interference in the lives of citizens.  It&#8217;s money taken from our pockets.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 07:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys are talking over my head, but I do know that whatever anyone wants to name one side or the other, the minute a person starts to implement a "solution" that persecutes a minority, we no longer have a Republic!  You can talk and should be allowed to, but don't go tryin' to force your way on folks.

To the point of expenditures by the Gov't, Why in gods name does a member of the Royal family of Lichtenstein get farm payment benefits from the U.S. Gov't????  and for NOT growing crops!  What idiots came up with this idea????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys are talking over my head, but I do know that whatever anyone wants to name one side or the other, the minute a person starts to implement a &#8220;solution&#8221; that persecutes a minority, we no longer have a Republic!  You can talk and should be allowed to, but don&#8217;t go tryin&#8217; to force your way on folks.</p>
<p>To the point of expenditures by the Gov&#8217;t, Why in gods name does a member of the Royal family of Lichtenstein get farm payment benefits from the U.S. Gov&#8217;t????  and for NOT growing crops!  What idiots came up with this idea????</p>
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		<title>By: Michael van der Galiën</title>
		<link>http://mvdg.wordpress.com/2007/10/24/loss-of-free-inquiry-on-campus-betrays-liberal-legacy/#comment-40003</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael van der Galiën</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 06:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Big government isn’t just about raw expenditures - though that is important - it is also about interference in the lives of citizens from unaccountable federal bureaucrats.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Exactly and Reagan did a great job in that regard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Big government isn’t just about raw expenditures - though that is important - it is also about interference in the lives of citizens from unaccountable federal bureaucrats.</p></blockquote>
<p>Exactly and Reagan did a great job in that regard.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike C.</title>
		<link>http://mvdg.wordpress.com/2007/10/24/loss-of-free-inquiry-on-campus-betrays-liberal-legacy/#comment-39961</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 01:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Would it betray the liberal legacy to be intolerant of the idea that women should be denied the right to vote?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I wish liberals would show a little less tolerance of groups like the Islamists in the Muslim Students Association but their intolerance seems to extend only to mainstream conservatives and Christians.

Chris,

&lt;blockquote&gt;That’s why Reagan was for big government, he just wanted his big government to spend more (relatively speaking) on the military.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Big government isn't just about raw expenditures - though that is important - it is also about interference in the lives of citizens from unaccountable federal bureaucrats.  Having more military personnel available doesn't tend to affect the lives of individual citizens the way that, say, expanding the Department of Education's role does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Would it betray the liberal legacy to be intolerant of the idea that women should be denied the right to vote?</p></blockquote>
<p>I wish liberals would show a little less tolerance of groups like the Islamists in the Muslim Students Association but their intolerance seems to extend only to mainstream conservatives and Christians.</p>
<p>Chris,</p>
<blockquote><p>That’s why Reagan was for big government, he just wanted his big government to spend more (relatively speaking) on the military.</p></blockquote>
<p>Big government isn&#8217;t just about raw expenditures - though that is important - it is also about interference in the lives of citizens from unaccountable federal bureaucrats.  Having more military personnel available doesn&#8217;t tend to affect the lives of individual citizens the way that, say, expanding the Department of Education&#8217;s role does.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://mvdg.wordpress.com/2007/10/24/loss-of-free-inquiry-on-campus-betrays-liberal-legacy/#comment-39926</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 22:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>C Stanley,
I appreciate what you're saying, and I know exactly what you mean.  But the conservatives who think increasing the size of the military does not increase the size of the government are simply wrong.

That's why Reagan was for big government, he just wanted his big government to spend more (relatively speaking) on the military.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C Stanley,<br />
I appreciate what you&#8217;re saying, and I know exactly what you mean.  But the conservatives who think increasing the size of the military does not increase the size of the government are simply wrong.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why Reagan was for big government, he just wanted his big government to spend more (relatively speaking) on the military.</p>
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		<title>By: C Stanley</title>
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		<dc:creator>C Stanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 22:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris: I'm only pointing out that conservatives do view military spending differently than domestic entitlement spending- due to the belief that defense is the legitimate role of the federal govt and some of the other functions related to domestic spending are not.

Whether or not you agree with that is a different story, and even conservatives take that view to varying degrees. But it's still important to know that people who talk about small government are using that as shorthand (usually) for lower domestic spending and less federal bureaucracy- so it's not necessarily shorthand for lower spending overall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris: I&#8217;m only pointing out that conservatives do view military spending differently than domestic entitlement spending- due to the belief that defense is the legitimate role of the federal govt and some of the other functions related to domestic spending are not.</p>
<p>Whether or not you agree with that is a different story, and even conservatives take that view to varying degrees. But it&#8217;s still important to know that people who talk about small government are using that as shorthand (usually) for lower domestic spending and less federal bureaucracy- so it&#8217;s not necessarily shorthand for lower spending overall.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 21:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Big spending isn’t necessarily the same as big govt when you take into account that much of it was on the military&lt;/blockquote&gt;
C Stanley,
I'm gonna have to call you on this. You're pretending that the military is not part of the government.  That's true, wartime or not.

Besides, conservatives that are worried about government interference in their lives should also fear a large and powerful military that answers to that government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Big spending isn’t necessarily the same as big govt when you take into account that much of it was on the military</p></blockquote>
<p>C Stanley,<br />
I&#8217;m gonna have to call you on this. You&#8217;re pretending that the military is not part of the government.  That&#8217;s true, wartime or not.</p>
<p>Besides, conservatives that are worried about government interference in their lives should also fear a large and powerful military that answers to that government.</p>
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		<title>By: C Stanley</title>
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		<dc:creator>C Stanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 21:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris: there are other aspects of Reagan's legacy that are respected by conservatives. Big spending isn't necessarily the same as big govt when you take into account that much of it was on the military (which helped end the Cold War). The domestic spending, and Reagan's inability (or unwillingness) to curb it is not something that conservatives want their candidates to emulate. And with regard to that domestic spending, there was some progress toward devolving programs back to the states to shrink the federal bureaucracies- and the debates which began under Reagan helped lead to welfare reform in the 90s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris: there are other aspects of Reagan&#8217;s legacy that are respected by conservatives. Big spending isn&#8217;t necessarily the same as big govt when you take into account that much of it was on the military (which helped end the Cold War). The domestic spending, and Reagan&#8217;s inability (or unwillingness) to curb it is not something that conservatives want their candidates to emulate. And with regard to that domestic spending, there was some progress toward devolving programs back to the states to shrink the federal bureaucracies- and the debates which began under Reagan helped lead to welfare reform in the 90s.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 21:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reagan's gov't spends like crazy (at least with his consent, if not by design) &#62; big spending gov't is the same as big gov't &#62; conservatives worship Reagan &#62; conservatives elect his VP, and the VPs son &#62; conservatives embrace big gov't philosophy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reagan&#8217;s gov&#8217;t spends like crazy (at least with his consent, if not by design) &gt; big spending gov&#8217;t is the same as big gov&#8217;t &gt; conservatives worship Reagan &gt; conservatives elect his VP, and the VPs son &gt; conservatives embrace big gov&#8217;t philosophy</p>
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